Interview -- Former president Pervez Musharraf
By
Amir Zia
Monthly
Narratives
December 2017
For most mainstream political parties, the creation of new
provinces in Pakistan is not an option at all. Nonetheless, there are some
powerful voices who have been increasingly advocating this cause.
Those seeking the creation of new provinces in Pakistan, believe
that it would improve governance, devolve power to the grassroots level and
help deal with the challenge of narrow provincialism and ethnic-based politics.
That’s the reason they cite for the formation of new provinces along
administrative lines rather than ethnic considerations.
However, implementing any such decision is easier said than done
because of the sensitivities involved. For the old guard politicians, whose
vested interests are solidly linked to the existing order, it is a firm ‘no’ as
they maintain that Pakistan comprises the federating units, which decided to
join Pakistan at the time of independence. They hold provincial boundaries as
sacred.
But it is also true that the existing political order has failed
to resolve basic contradictions of the country, including the settlement of
issues pertaining to the distribution of resources, the devolution of power or
providing a corruption-free and pro-people government.
In other countries, the creation of new administrative units is
not considered taboo. New challenges and changing circumstances keep
introducing innovative ideas and new solutions. Can this be done in Pakistan?
Does Pakistan need new provinces? And the billion dollar question; how can new
provinces be created?
Given Pakistan’s polarised politics, dominated by the Panama and
‘Aqama’ scandals, such issues are not high on the agenda of the majority of big
players.
General (retd) Pervez Musharraf, the former president of
Pakistan, talks to Narratives on why Pakistan needs new provinces. Narratives
presents extracts from his interview.
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-- A number of times, you have said that one of your regrets remains
that you did not create new provinces. Why do you think new provinces are
needed in Pakistan?
Any structure of governance should ensure maximum
decentralisation. This is vital not just for Pakistan, but in any country
focused on the welfare and well-being of its citizens.
In Pakistan, creating new provinces is necessary because it’s
the demand of the people. There are two sets of problems. The first one is
related to Punjab, which unfortunately is the actual bone of contention. Punjab
is the largest province in terms of population, which results in its dominance
in the country’s politics.
As a result, smaller provinces have developed a sense of
deprivation and they often unnecessarily accuse Punjab of exploiting the
country’s resources. Even the Pakistan Army is often labelled Punjab’s army,
which is an incorrect perception.
The second issue is that many people tend to view the problems
being faced by them from an ethnic point of view, though we should see it from
Pakistan’s perspective. This simply means bringing an improvement in
governance.
Another key dilemma for Pakistan is that because of four huge
and powerful provinces, the centre, or federation, has become weak. I believe
that the centre should be powerful, while provinces should be administratively
strong for efficient governance. This is possible only if we have more
provinces. Creating new provinces is not a big undertaking, but we should keep
in mind the sensitivities. For this, a think tank must be set up to examine the
issue minutely and thoroughly.
-- When you were in power, what prevented you from creating new
provinces?
When I took charge, I had other pressing issues; fixing the
economy, for example, was a big challenge at that time. Then came 9/11
(terrorist strikes in the US), which diverted our attention from other key
issues.
If we had taken up the issue of creating new provinces at that
time, which I understand is very sensitive, I wouldn’t have been able to turn
the economy around. But countries that are unable to deal with such sensitive
issues lag behind in the race of progress and development. I realise we should
have tackled this issue as well, but since there was so much to do, I thought
it appropriate to avoid it at that time.
-- There’s a lot of resistance to
this idea from small nationalist groups as well as traditional political
parties. How do you suggest executing such a plan?
I realise the sensitivity of the issue. It can be resolved if an
interim government with a strong backing of the Supreme Court and the army is
empowered to amend the Constitution. But it should be done ensuring that there
are no ethnic divisions, which would lead to disputes. New provinces should be
carved out on administrative lines.
-- Do you think provincial boundaries are sacred as some ethnic and
sub-nationalist forces tend to perceive?
Indeed there are sensitivities and sentiment involved. Take Sindh,
for example. Stakeholders there think that Karachi should not be given the
status of a separate province, which is right. While Sindh’s grievances are
justified, we have to think how the province can be divided into smaller units
without triggering ethnic rivalries. The same goes for other provinces.
-- Dr Tahir-ul Qadri once suggested that new provinces be created on
the basis of existing divisions. This he believes will help devolution of power
to grassroots level. Is it a workable solution?
Yes, this is one of the solutions. But just one person cannot
solve the matter. We need to have input from all quarters before making any
decision.
-- Will smaller provinces help curb provincialism and result in
better governance, given the fact that these two issues have remained a bane in
our politics?
You are absolutely right. If we have more provinces, the
utilisation of funds will be much more effective and the people of that area
will certainly benefit economically. This would lead to their overall
prosperity and well-being. At the same time, the centre will also become
strong.
-- After the 18th Amendment, education along with other key
departments, has also been handed over to the provinces. As a result each
province now has its own curriculum. Don’t you think the centre should keep a
few departments, such as education, under its control which is vital for
national cohesion?
When I formed the district governments under the local
government system, we decided that the primary and secondary level education
would be run by the district governments. A councillor at the district level
would be in charge of everything – teachers’ postings, their recruitment,
school attendance, while the province would be responsible for college
education. The Higher Education Commission would look after university
education. Our education system was in very good shape by virtue of these
measures.
-- Currently one province – Punjab – decides who gains power at the
centre. Will new provinces help change this pattern?
Absolutely. And that’s precisely the reason why smaller
provinces crib against Punjab. So if we are not heeding the grievances of
other provinces, then we are behaving like ostriches. Unfortunately, our
political leadership is blind and deaf to such bitter realities.
-- A debate is raging these days about FATA’s (Federally
Administrated Tribal Areas) merger with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Your thoughts on
this issue?
We should not have a piecemeal approach to this issue. We have
to resolve the issue of new provinces once and for all. Going by its geography,
Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is a long province which runs from Pakistan’s frontier with
China, Chitral and going down to Zhob in Balochistan. Those who say that FATA
should become a province are not being practical. It starts from Bajaur Agency
and goes through seven agencies, up to South Waziristan. However, the need of
the hour is to make more provinces and deal with this issue in one go.
-- Have you identified the forces in favour of crafting new
provinces?
Frankly, I haven’t identified such forces in detail, let alone
establishing contacts with any party on this issue. But in hindsight, I believe
I should’ve done that . . . it’s an important issue and must be discussed and
debated at the national level.
-- One of the major achievements of your government was setting up of
an empowered local government system, but this reform has been undone by the
major political parties. Why do our traditional parties stand opposed to
powerful local bodies?
Because of personal vested interests of MNAs and MPAs.
Politicians get billions of rupees worth of funds in the name of development
for their constituencies, and they have often used or pocketed at least a big
chunk for themselves. We, in contrast, granted councillors administrative,
political, and, most importantly, financial authority. When we decentralised
the system, public sector development funds were given directly to the 110
districts. In developed countries like the United States and England, mayors
are empowered and run the show, but sadly in Pakistan they have been made
powerless.
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